Theories shirts now available!
Finally, we have our first samples of Theories shirts in.
We’ll have more designs on their way soon, but this one wil have to do for the next week or two.
Snatch one up for your greedy little self.
Sunday, October 21, 2007
Question:
-Can you give us a concrete date for the availability of the Static 3 dvd?
-Will it be for sale on this site?
-Presale options?
Sorry for the barrage, just inquiring minds, getting antsy for the release.
Comment by Jura # October 22, 2007 at 8:00 am
Have you ever asked yourself exactly who is Benjamin Franklin? I know history has painted him as a patriot and hero founding “father,” but is he simply a conspiriring member of the Masonic brotherhood that sought to establish a new government in the “new world” based on natural law? Was it because of the British and Scottish Freemason’s frustrations after many failed attempts to try and restore the Stuart Dynasty in Great Britain? Did he, along with his Masonic breatheren, simply seek to to establish a Masonically-controlled government in the New World? There is evidence that both the American and French Revolutions were planned and perpetrated by Freemasons to overthrow government by monarchies which were unsympathetic to Freemasonry. Have you ever sought the answers to these questions before we revere or celebrate the consequences of this man’s role and motive in the founding of this nation? Do we celebrate him for the sincerity that we think his role was in the founding of this nation? Or was it more sinister than sincere? Do we celebrate his role in a cabalistic brotherhood that has sought to consolidate power and exercise control over the masses for centuries?
Comment by Harry S. Truman, 33rd degree mason of the Scottish Rite and Grand Master of the Missouri Lodge # October 22, 2007 at 10:21 am
about as unrelated as possible but i was just wondering, josh, if i could get your email to follow up on that cleveland premiere ish so i can set it up..
Comment by joe # October 22, 2007 at 11:09 am
Joe….my email is staticvideo@yahoo.com
And Harry Truman…who do you think you’re talking to here?
OfCOURSE I’ve considered the things you’re proposing. Hence the t-shirt for Theories seen above. Look at Franklin’s confusing gaze, very similar to the Mona Lisa smile which is immortalized in the minds of humanity. It is VERY unclear as to what was really going on with Ben Franklin and the founding fathers. Were they all the warriors of freedom we’re taught to believ or sinister Masonic agents?
It’s 100% fact that they all held a very strong allegience to Freemasonry and went well out of their way to incorporate it’s symbols throughout the formations of this nation and the acrhitrcture and infrastructure contained within. But have you ever considered the possibility that they represented a great schism from the freemasonry of the old world? Why would they draft such important documents and fight so hard to preserve those values during their lifetimes? Why would they make such an issue with the evils of a central bank? Why would they construct a framework which really DID provide for a government that could provide endless freedoms while being able to bend and sway with the twisting tides of time? It’s an interesting debate and I rule out not a single one of these possibilities. Hence the idea behind this t-shirt graphic and it’s representation of Theories. That bewildering gaze on Franklin’s face speaks volumes, but in what direction is up to the beholder and to those who are willing and diligent enough to dig down to the marrow of history’s truths.
Good comment Harry.
Comment by Theorizer # October 22, 2007 at 1:34 pm
do the shirts run big/small? i’m usually between sizes, so lean up or down? and the picture doesn’t seem to be working, by the way.
Comment by colin # October 22, 2007 at 3:09 pm
i can not see the graphic either
Comment by the body # October 23, 2007 at 9:00 am
It’s invisible guys… Duh.
Comment by KillaTapes # October 23, 2007 at 9:58 am
It sounds as if I am speaking to someone who is engaged in constructing unsubstantiated theories about Benjamin Franklin. So then, I suppose the shirt is appropriate. Mind you there has been a lot written about Ben Franklin and his allegiance to the Freemasons. But to say his intent was unclear? It is unclear only if we choose to remain in the dark about Freemasonry. It is also unclear if the intent was designed to be “unclear.” But, if it is “100% fact” (there were only 9 confirmed masonic signers of The Declaration of Independence. There were 11 signers whose membership was rumored, but is not proven by records. *see note below) that “their” allegiance was to a Freemasonic cabal, then what is unclear?
So then, all one must do is study Freemasonry to understand their intent, no? The only way it would be unclear was if we don’t understand the tenets and aims of Freemasonry. And one of the best known tenets of freemasonry is it’s cryptic and shadowy veil of secrecy that besets their organization.
The reason I have never considered a schism in the “freemasonry
of the old world” is because there has never been
anything written on a “great schism between old and new,” aside from the Great Schism between the English and the French Lodges which
had to do with the acceptance of women and atheists. The history of Freemasonry, especially after 1717 has been well documented. Don’t you think any of the historians or philosophers of the craft, such as Manly P. Hall or Albert Pike would have written of such a great schism
between the freemasonry of the old world and new resulting from the birth of this nation?
So then let us consider why “they” would draft such “important documents” and “fight so hard to preserve those values during their lifetimes.” Let us first consider these important documents. Could it be said that all the Declaration of Independence did was declare the freedom of the colonies from the rule of King George, and that any body of people should be able to free itself from the tyrannical grips of any such dictatorial or despotically inclined ruler? No where in the Declaration of Independence is the word democracy ever mentioned.
This country is a Republic, as set up by the Constitution, which means that we elect Representatives to Congress, we are not led by a monarch, and we are entitled to vote. Infiltration and manipulation of this type of government is extremely easy if one can control the factors.
Let us know look at the Constitution. It can be said the the principal freedoms expressed by the Constitution and the original first ten amendments of the Bill of Rights mainly guaranteed the freedom of speech and the freedom of religion, the right to bear arms and the right to due process. As we can see only a select were truly “free.”
Now it can also be said that in exercising the freedom of religion, one of the main reasons people even came to this country in the first place, that all that freedom does is divide the inhabitants of a land. It can also be said that if you study the principals of Freemasonry, which is in a classic sense, a “religion” in itself, is that you will see that the Freemasons essentially benefited by allowing the practice of what they essentially thought to be an infidel religion (along with all of the other Judeo-Christian based religions). The practice of Freemasonry is a practice of a higher order. It’s roots are in the worship of the sun and the stars and it’s origins are in the pre Judeo-Christian practice of the Ancient Sumerians and Egyptians. Now we can get into where those origins stem from, but most believe that it is rooted in ancient Astrology. Essentially Freemasonry is a practice of Natural Law. Order from Chaos. That which is up, so is as down. This a concept that is highly obscured by modern religious practices. Take for instance the idea of hell in Christianity and Islam.
Now we all know that is much easier to control people when their attention is diverted and they are divided. Essentially the freedom of speech does no good if it cannot be exercised. And we all know that the only way that speech can be heard is through amplification. We also know that speech is only what it is, speech. It is only through the execution of the ideas expressed in speech is speech a worthwhile expenditure. Hence the role of Congress. Now it can be said that if you can control Congress, you can control the voice of the people, no?
A systematically easy method of infiltration and decisive control. Couple that with control of information and you have yourself an imperialistically effective method of control.
Now let us consider this “fight.” It is widely known that George Washington and many of his officers were Freemasons. But to what did the Masons truly sacrifice for this “courageous fight.” Who benefited? There is evidence of the American Revolution and the French Revolution being staged and orchestrated by the Freemasons. How did Benjamin Franklin participate? What did he sacrifice? Was he overly courageous?
Essentially the founding fathers were opposed to a Central Bank because as aforementioned in the Constitution, “Only Congress shall have the power to coin money.” That is why only up until 1913, with the passing of the Federal Reserve Act, was Congress hijacked by private bankers. Was it by design? Mind you, Andrew Jackson, the only president to cure the national debt, was Grand Master of Tennessee from 1822-1823. Andrew Jackson along with his chief political adviser Martin Van Buren, changed the way the voting process in this country worked and laid the foundations for the Democratic Party. He was also the first American President to be elected by popular vote.
Now, I suppose the heart of any debate over the use of an image of Ben Franklin in representing the ideals of your website would lie in the clandestine nature of the Freemasons. Are they sinister or sincere? But I suppose an easy point to discern would be their admitted use of violence against any member who compromises their oath of secrecy. This could easily be sighted in the case of William Morgan of Batavia, N.Y. which I won’t get into here. Anyhow, I suppose that it is safe to say that any practitioner of the truth should have nothing to hide, unless it is used for nefarious purposes, nor would any practitioner of truth find it necessary to use violence. This may be the most startling of the questions raised about Ben Franklin’s allegiance to Freemasonry.
*note: This is contested by the authors of the Temple and The Lodge, the same great authors who brought you Holy Blood, Holy Grail: “Of the fifty-six signatories of the Declaration of Independence, only nine can definitely be identified as Freemasons, while ten others may possibly have been. Of the general officers in the Continental Army, there were so far as documentation can establish, thirty-three Freemasons out of seventy-four. Granted the known Freemasons were, as a rule, more prominent, more instrumental in shaping the course of events than their unaffiliated colleagues…
“On 11 June, (the Continental) Congress appointed a committee to draft a declaration of independence. Of the five men on this committee, two – Franklin and…Robert Livingston – were Freemasons, and one, Robert Sherman, is believed, though not confirmed, to have been. The other two, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams – were not, despite subsequent claims to the contrary. The text of the declaration was composed by Jefferson. It was submitted to Congress and accepted on 4 July 1776. The nine signatories who can now be established as proven Freemasons, and the ten who were possibly so, included such influential figures as Washington, Franklin and, of course, the president of the Congress, John Hancock. The army, moreover, remained almost entirely in Freemasonic hands…As we shall see, it is in the Constitution that the influence of Freemasonry is most discernible…
“At last, on 25 May 1787, the Constitutional Convention opened in Philadelphia and commenced its efforts to devise the machinery of government for the new nation. The first voice to make itself heard in any significantly influential way was a characteristically Freemasonic one, that of Edmund Randolph.. Randolph…a member of a Williamsburg lodge, had become Washington’s aide-de-camp. Subsequently he was to become Attorney-General, then governor of Virginia and Grand Master of Virginia’s Grand Lodge. During Washington’s presidency, he was to serve as the first Attorney-General of the United States, then the first Secretary of State.
“…There were ultimately five dominant and guiding spirits behind the Constitution – Washington, Franklin, Randolph, Jefferson and John Adams. Of these, the first three were active Freemasons, but men who took their Freemasonry extremely seriously – men who subscribed fervently to its ideals, whose entire orientation had been shaped and conditioned by it. And Adam’s position, though he himself is not known to have been a Freemason was virtually identical to theirs. When he became president, moreover, he appointed a prominent Freemason, John Marshall, as first Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.
Comment by Harry S. Truman, 33rd degree mason of the Scottish Rite and Grand Master of the Missouri Lodge # October 23, 2007 at 2:48 pm
Holy Shit!
Comment by Anon Amos # October 23, 2007 at 2:58 pm
Very interesting.
Comment by Steve. # October 23, 2007 at 7:02 pm
You know though, don’t take what I say to be truth as essentially I only offer a perspective. Perspective changes with position. Do your own investigation. Based on what I now know, yes, some of the founding fathers were good, just like some police are good. It may be that the Freemasons were essentially used, much in the same way police are used.
Essentially, the international banking cartel may be the true menace behind all that is “wrong” with the world we live in. Or we may be living out a kind of manifest destiny, or survival of the fittest as a species. But what I do know is that elements of the banking cartel, elements of the Freemasons, elements of the Royal Family, and so on and so forth are intertwined and there is a true concerted effort to consolidate and maintain control over power on earth. And I also know that since 1913 shit has been seriously wrong in this country. I also know that elements of our government have been waging war on us for some time now. History can tell us that. Google Operation Northwoods, and then re-look at Sept. 11th.
So we can debate the true intentions of the founding fathers. Will it solve anything? Probably not.(Although it may make you re-think who you throw on a t-shirt before researching their backgrounds.) Essentially, energy=money=control=power=energy=money=control. And essentially energy and power equal the same thing, sometimes manifested as tangible energy such as oil, and sometimes in an intangible form such as control over a people’s destiny, like what is happening in the Middle East right now, or Africa. Sometimes it is in the form of a dollar bill, sometimes it is in the belief of that dollar bill, as realistically it is only paper.
I do stand by what I said about the Freemason’s practices. They are not so much secretive as they are private, or else how would the information have gotten out there in the first place? Are Freemasons bad? Well that is for another discussion, but essentially the method of measurement that exists in Freemasonry, the degree, says a lot. Elevation in Freemasonry is based on trust, on potential, and above all, allegiance. I suppose we should ask ourselves, who controlled or what motivated our founding fathers? Is it safe to say that Benjamin Franklin owed his allegiance to the Lodge before his “countrymen?”
I leave you lastly with a quote from old Ben. “Those who would give up essential liberty for a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” Maybe, say, Ghandi would have been a safer choice. Anyhow, cool shirt and thanks for your ear.
Comment by Harry S. Truman, 33rd degree mason of the Scottish Rite and Grand Master of the Missouri # October 23, 2007 at 9:40 pm
Various presidential executive orders allow the president to declare martial law without congressional review for siz months, and for the federal government to seize control of all modes of transportation, food sources, and to organize citizens into work brigades in labor camps. Likewise, FEMA recently granted Halliburton $385 million dollars to build concentration camps inside the United States.
Comment by Richard N. Haass, President, The Council on Foreign Relations # October 23, 2007 at 9:51 pm
Sorry, six months. I’ve been listening to a lot of that funky, how do you youngsters call it, hip-hop, lately.
Comment by Richard N. Haass, President, The Council on Foreign Relations # October 23, 2007 at 9:55 pm
This is one way to ” Just Do It” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MBzLTjVMhY
Comment by WeAreChange.com # October 23, 2007 at 10:27 pm
I’ve read about FEMA camps awhile ago, in behold a pale horse. written by William Cooper, a former C.I.A agent. He wrote the book back in 1988, you can see alot of things he wrote and predicted back then happening now. There are alot of very eye opening things in the book, such as mind control, free masons, the rising of a police state, FEMA camps, area 51, John F. Kennedy, the import of cocaine into the united states, how aids was created to control population, mount weather and the secret government. I suggest everyone read this book.
Comment by under the cover # October 23, 2007 at 11:40 pm
I forgot to ask, is there a link you could post that would direct me to where you got the information that FEMA granted halliburton the 385 million to build these labor camps. It makes perfect sense why halliburton got the contract to build them. this is very interesting and scary at the same time.
Comment by under the cover # October 23, 2007 at 11:46 pm
Yo Harold…..you’re making one of the biggest mistakes a researcher can make….you’re assuming.
Can’t assume man. You said yourself that freemasonry’s primary aim is to cloud itself in mystery.
So I ask you….if the founding fathers were agents of Freemasonry, why do those of us who are the most well versed in this history and secrecy spend so much of our energies fighting to restore the constitution? Why is this document so empowering to the people and why was it designed to keep power and authority in check?
It’s no smoke screen, it’s the genuine article…that is, until Bush and his lawyers are finished demolishing it piece by piece and the North American Union renders it’s powers about as useful as a sheet of toilet paper.
I understand your points…I’ve read a shit-ton about Freemasonry, about it’s predecessor The Knights Templar, and about the possible knowldge they discovered under King Solomon’s temple during the crusades. I have many different ideas as to what they DID discover and I believe it goes much further back in time than just Jesus’s bloodline.
Just saying here, that an open mind must be kept about all of this stuff because Freemasonry, the Knights Templar, Illuminized Freemasonry, Scottish Rite Freemasonry, etc, etc are all well documented…but who is doing the documenting? The very organizations themselves. So to claim you have a full understanding of this history, and of Benny Boy’s goals and aims while developing the United States as we know it, is outlandish. Because you’re talking about the most secretive organization of all time and about 250 years in the past.
And I just landed on a plane in Paris about 30 minutes ago…so I need to get some sleep before tackling this subject again.
G’nite.
Comment by Theorizer # October 24, 2007 at 4:03 am
That is not what I said. I said one of it’s tenets is to remain secretive. Freemasonry is better described as private, although to the general public it has an air of secrecy. I also said that not all of the Founding Fathers were Masons. I never said that the Constitution was not an effective document, nor did I say that it should not be preserved, respected as it was written or restored to it’s original intent. What I did say is that it has been manipulated.
I also assumed nothing. Personally, like I said, I believe that the Freemason’s were simply a part of establishing this nation, albeit a biggish part. This is not a debate or a display of wits. This is fact. What I was asking essentially was why you chose a man who’s allegiance was clearly to the Lodge for your T-shirt and I believe you answered me in your first response.
Freemasonry is definitely not the most secretive organization of all time, nor of the past 250 years. Freemasonry is well documented. The C.I.A. is way more clandestine in nature. I also never claimed that I have a full understanding of anything. I simply offered my perspective.
Freemasonry is nothing more than a club. It’s entire existence and integrity is based largely on the existence and allegiance of the lower degrees, sometimes called porch masons. It is the same as any belief. A belief is only empowered by it’s believers. So essentially, like I said, I believe the top degree’s of the Freemason’s to be very powerful men and intertwined with other elements of a Global Cabal(or other powerful men) who seem to be making very big decisions about the world we all live in. My observation was simply that old Ben was a very high ranking Freemason. Essentially my question to you was what do you believe to be Ben’s intent and why did you choose him to represent your website? I do not wish to argue about Freemasonry, but if you can provide any other insight on the subject, I’d appreciate it.
Comment by Harold Ramis 3rd degree Freemason and President of the Grand Orient, Most Holy Temple of Ordained, Free and Accepted Ghost Busters # October 24, 2007 at 8:49 am
Might I remind you, that there is a huge difference between the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. The Declaration is an overwhelming outcry of emotion against the repressive rule of England, while the Constitution sets the plans for a new type of government that yields considerable power, contrasting the wishes of the earlier republicans and “founding fathers.”
Might I also remind you that there are few men who signed both documents, Franklin being one to sign both. There are significant names missing from the Constitution, mainly Jefferson, Samuel Adams, and John Adams and was done primarily out of support for the previous method of governance, The Articles of Confederation. This may show the stark differences between Jeffersonian republicanism and Hamiltonian Federalism. I might remind you too, that it is Hamilton that instituted a “central bank,” and Jefferson who warned against it’s dangers.
I suppose then I should reiterate, that all I’m saying is that secrecy in gov’t is suspect and that an allegiance to anything other than the republic is dangerous.
Comment by Harry S. Truman, 33rd degree mason of the Scottish Rite and Grand Master of the Missouri # October 25, 2007 at 10:40 am
Your posts have been amazing, Harold Ramis/Truman…
Good stuff indeed.
I’m glad you called out the questions surrounding Franklin so I was able to explain my reasoning behind applying his image to my first shirt.
The original image the screen is made from is absolutely incredible. It is so mysterious and so allusive the that devious Mona Lisa smile.
I’m in London at the moment and swamped with Static III premiere issues. I’d be all over this topic if I had the time because I think you have a lot of interesting information and input to share on this subject.
I’ll be back to daily posts soon and to all who’ve asked, the Theories shirts are all on American Aparell shirts. You definitely should have A.A. shirts in your closet and you could use this as a guide. BUt they fit really well and larges fit as a large should, not like a fatter medium, like most other cheap shirts out there.
Anyways, I’ll be back soon.
Thanks for all your comments guys!
Comment by Theorizer # October 26, 2007 at 8:41 am
I looked into American Apparel the other day…and 15 or 20 dollar blank Tee’s? $40.00 blank hoodies?
Comment by Steve. # October 26, 2007 at 9:36 am
Yeah, that shit is a racket. They’re so expensive because they use labor from the U.S. Although it is comendable for keeping the business in the U.S., it’s insanity to pay that much for a cotton tee shirt. You can thank the Bilderbeger’s for that. It’s too bad. You know that is the beauty of the skateboarding industry. At one time, all of skateboarding was owned by American, homegrown, start up entrepeneurs. No mega Corps involved. And that is why we must preserve our industry and not allow the Nike’s or the Addidas’ into skateboarding. Before you know it, all of skateboarding will be owned by big business and we will be on our hands and knees as slaves to the non skateboarding owned mega corps. It’s happening already. BOYCOTT NIKE, ADDIDAS, TIMBERLAND(Ipath), ECHO(Zoo York), ELEMENT(owned by surf co. Billabong who also owns shit sunglass co. Von Zipper), D.C.(owned by Quicksilver) and any other shit stinking, greedy brands that are selling out skateboarding to the big, non skateboarder owned corporations. Shit, be your own corporation. Put skateboarding back in the control of skateboarders. Don’t buy shit at the mall stores, support your local core shops at all costs.
Comment by Thomas Paine # October 26, 2007 at 5:08 pm
Did you just call American Aparell’s business a “racket”?
Their shit is definitely overpriced, but you can blame that on hipster trend-chasers instead of them keeping their production in the US. They definitely need to be commended for keeping their industry all in the US, that’s amazing.
I’ll gladly pay more to support a company that does that. But the problem is that they hooked the hipster market somehow and it allowed them to charge exorbitant prices for their products that aren’t really THAT high quality.
Oh well…I like the way they fit. I am charging $17.95 for my shirts so that I can include shipping in the price. If not I’d basically be losing money on ‘em.
Hopefully I’ll have some other designs avaible soon.
Comment by Theorizer # October 27, 2007 at 5:14 pm
And Hairy Untrueman, you raise good points for sure. But to attack before considering your prey’s intentions is never a good technique.
Obviously, there are some seriously fishy intentions and allegiences going on in the foundation of this country. But Benjamin Franklin was obviously a brilliant man who is credited with inventing and developing the Postal Service, the Fire Fighting Service, The Library System, The Lightning rod, bifocals, the first american hospital, the first american insurance companies, invented swim fins, was the American ambassador to France, discovered that electricity existed in storm clouds, the waste management agency, and determined how colds are passed from person to person through air in a room.
I mean, to dismiss the dude as a random agent of Freemasonry is an insult to history. Putting his image on a shirt does not heroify him, it simply raises the subject and questions. The next shirt will likely have Lyndon Johnson on it….does that mean I’m celebrating him as a hero? No, it’s tying in the history and the questions around the overt conspiracy behind the JFK assassination.
Give me some credit here man.
Comment by Theorizer # October 27, 2007 at 5:40 pm
In response to 22. “But the problem is that they hooked the hipster market somehow and it allowed them to charge exorbitant prices for their products that aren’t really THAT high quality.” Exactly, a racket.
Comment by Thomas Paine # October 27, 2007 at 7:30 pm
Why do you consider this an attack? Who’s attacking who here? Never did I raise one point about his intelligence? Nor did I ever “dismiss” him as a “random agent of Freemasonry.” I don’t even understand what that means. Quite the contrary. I understand why he’s on your shirt. He is on the shirt because most think he was an agent of change, which he was. This is not a debate. The point I raised is that there is enough evidence to point to who Ben’s allegiances were to. There are no questions about that, so don’t make it into one. All I am saying is that Ben is a dangerous character to put on a shirt without explaning why he is on the shirt. I think you’re giving your “audience” too much credit. The shirt should at least come with a small bio on Ben, because 99.9% of people will see the shirt and will never have any idea that Ben was such a powerful man or such a high ranking Freemason. Hell, they probably won’t even know what a Freemason is. People don’t read. 1 in 5,000 people have ever even heard of the CFR. That is a staggering statistic, considering the ramifications the CFR has on our everyday life. Consider this, every mainstream media outlet is either owned by a CFR member or is represented by a CFR member. Every single one. In the United States, every single thing that an American sees, hears or reads is controlled by 5 corporations. FIVE. So I think it is safe to say that most will look at the shirt and not even understand what your original intent was or is. I think the shirt at least deserves a small bio as to why Ben is on the shirt. Or you can just post our discussion. It is obvious what Ben’s intentions were. Reading history will answer that. Just don’t read it out of a school textbook. Essentially, there are no unanswered questions. There is no un-clarity. It is all right there. I believe Ben’s intent was clear. I believe all of the Founding Father’s intent was clear. Did they all have the same intent, obviously not. If there is any one person in history who has swayed from what most think to be the “intent” of our founding fathers, it is most definitely Alexander Hamilton. But even Hamilton felt justified in his theory. You see Hamilton was working under a system of dirigisme, or economic planning and control by the state. Something that some of the other founding father’s may not have fully agreed with. Hamilton and his supporters, thought that in order to create an economically dependent and nationally self sufficient country, it needed to impose certain industry protections. i.e. selectively high tariffs to isolate British goods coming in to the country, government investments in it’s own infrastructure to create improvement, and a national bank to promote growth. As the British Empire began to fold at the end of the 19th century, a handful of European nations along with the U.S. and Japan began to overtake Britain’s industrial production. The British oligarchs (essentially at this point, a cabal of the banking and industrial magnets, essentially sort of and I stress sort of, Anglo-American, because many of the American magnets where financed by British banking houses) knew that in order to survive that they would have to destroy Hamilton’s system. Hamilton’s system round-a-boutly benefited strong nationhood. It also enabled monopolies. Essentially, up until the rise of the United States there had not really been a system that competed with the British model of free trade. So the “bankers” essentially infiltrated the “system” by setting up the Aspen Institute and the Ditchley Foundation which was set up by Lord Bullock of the Royal Institute of International Affairs, the RIIA. The RIIA is a branch of the Round Table, whose American branch is the CFR. Essentially we have here are two competing entities, the nation state or, “the republi” and this Anglo-American cabal, the “internationalists.” So even since the birth of this nation there may have been good intent amonst the founding fathers. There was definitely ill-intent. There was necessity and there was ideology. There has always been the cabal and the infiltrator. There has always been the predator waiting for the perfect time to strike. Only up until this concerted effort to destroy the United States from within by this political commitment to impede at all costs this economical nationalism that empowered our Republic, have we been subjected to it’s most appalling crimes. There is no doubt that these various cabals work in tandem with one another and although there may be no one institution that works “above” all the rest, they are all interlocked and intertwined, spreading their tentacles far and wide, griping us into a feudal choke hold.
Comment by Harry S. Truman, 33rd degree mason of the Scottish Rite and Grand Master of the Missouri Lodge # October 27, 2007 at 9:23 pm
Sorry, “Essentially we have here are two competing entities, the nation state or, “the REBUBLIC” and this Anglo-American cabal, the “internationalists.”
Comment by Harry S. Truman, 33rd degree mason of the Scottish Rite and Grand Master of the Missouri Lodge # October 27, 2007 at 9:28 pm
I must say, I like the shirt even though I think it is a bit misleading. I understood what you were getting at. Shit, and what I meant was”Essentially WHAT we have here are two competing entities, the nation state or, “the republic” and this Anglo-American cabal, the “internationalists.”
Comment by Harry S. Truman, 33rd degree mason of the Scottish Rite and Grand Master of the Missouri Lodge # October 27, 2007 at 9:30 pm
Maybe the image on the shirt is just used to create a topic of discussion. Perhaps thats why Josh used it. To get people to talk about it, similar to whats going on in this forum here.
Comment by Bob Sackamano # October 28, 2007 at 4:28 am
I doubt it. Do you see anyone else talking about it? That’s what I was saying is that 99.9 percent of people would never consider the implications the shirt is making. People probably don’t even have the attention span to read our discourse. It is a very effective shirt, I just think most won’t get it. Which then turns it into a dangerous shirt, because then it props up “the official story.”
Do you understand what I’m getting at? I think the shirt is too subtle to have any far reaching effects. Only if the shirt invokes conversation and the wearer can expose the truth behind what Ben was about, will the shirt be truly effective. Freemason’s are a breatheren. And they usually comprise very high ranking positions in industry, finance, politics and the “media.” They take secret oaths to look after one another. It’s favoratism. And that’s putting it lightly. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying they are pure evil, or they run the world. Obviously it is a bit more complex. There are much more sinister organizations out there, but Freemasonary definitely serves it purpose and occupies it’s position in the “machine.” The problem is, I don’t see people talking to each other, especially about an image of Ben Franklin, anytime soon.
Ben’s a hard one. Maybe if the shirt said, “Founding Father or Loyal Freemason?” You see, because he is both. Maybe if it said something like, “Pledge Allegiance to Who?” Or “Patriot or Traitor?” I mean, you get what I’m trying to say? I’m not trying to design your shirts for you, I’m just saying maybe subtilty is not an option here.
Comment by Harry S. Truman, 33rd degree mason of the Scottish Rite and Grand Master of the Missouri Lodge # October 28, 2007 at 9:06 am
So….you’re basically asking that I dumb down the graphic to meet the level of the commoner’s wavelength?
Ofcourse the majority aren’t going to get it…but that’s the type of design I think is the most effective. Because then it exists on many different planes of meaning.
Let people draw their own conclusions….I personally have few doubts in my mind as to Ben Franklin’s allegiences to humanity.
His countless contributions were ideas and institutions that benefitted the common man. Public libraries, Fire Fighting service, the Postal service….I mean, seriously. I know that there is much shrouded in mystery here, and that is why it’s so intriguing.
The birth of America and the figures behind it’s foundations are of unending fascination to me. And not due to some sort of blind patriotism. There’s a very creepy mystique surrounding the whole scene and I don’t think we’ve even scratched the surface as to what was exactly going on there. But it’s my first T-Shirt, it was designed and produced in haste, but I think it’s effective in raising some questions and creating a certain mystique for the brand of “Theories”. I’ll make more direct referrences in the future. For now atleast I have a shirt available to the public, which was a massive feat in itself.
I’m happy with it and will raise more questions with new imagery in the near future.
I appreciate you keeping things in check though, because without discourses like this, readers might never discover the questions surrounding such subjects.
Now go skate man, it’s pissing down here in London right now, so I atelast have some sort of excuse.
Comment by Theorizer # October 28, 2007 at 9:23 am
as much as i liked reading all this about benjamin franklin, i still can’t see the image for the shirt. can everyone else see it and i’m the only one who can’t?
Comment by colin # October 28, 2007 at 12:34 pm
Dumb down? Dumb it up would be more like it. And I haven’t asked for anything. What do you believe is so shrouded in mystery? Take for example the Postal Service. Of course old Ben set up the Postal Service. The service of delivering posts has been utilized by governments for a long time as a method of keeping tabs on people and information. Read about the Rothschild’s “Postal Service.” Their brand of running posts gave them a strategic edge over their financial competitors because they eavesdropped on their competition. Read about how Mayer Rothschild learned about the outcome of the Battle of Waterloo a full day ahead of the government’s official messengers. His “postal service” had been expanded into basically a full-blown private intelligence service. This info enabled him to suggest a particular outcome on the London Exchange, which in effect enabled him to deceive the rest of the bettors and then buy up their failed puts. His branch of running posts and their money is part of what later became Fed Ex. (Fred Smith, “founder,” Bonesman, Yale, Class of ‘66)
Look, I am not doubting or discrediting Ben’s service to mankind or his intelligence. If I was I would have said so. I also don’t care what you do with your shirt designs. All I am saying is that I saw how the shirt could be misleading. Why can’t you just say thank you? There is no “mystery” surrounding Ben. There has been plenty written about his contributions to humanity as well as his role as a Freemason by himself and by others. Try reading it instead of Wikipedia-ing his contributions to humanity. No offense, but there are no theories at work here.
Personally, I believe there is nothing wrong with practicing Freemasonry. You want to worship “Lucifer” or have mock sacrifices, go ahead. Essentially that is the beauty of the Constitution. What it comes down to is that the people we “elect” into public office or the people they place in taxpayers payed jobs in their cabinets should not be part of some “secretive brotherhood” or have other “interests” at hand while running this country. They should not be CEO’s of a defense contractor or sit on the boards of GE or Royal Dutch Shell or be part of some quasi secret, cult like fraternity at Yale. But again, it comes down to not reading or investigating, nor do they give a shit. So yeah, I guess I believe your shirt is missing it’s mark. No big deal, I like the shirt. The sad thing is that we may be the only two on this website that understand it. No offense readers. Anyone else have anything to say?
Comment by Harry S. Truman, 33rd degree mason of the Scottish Rite and Grand Master of the Missouri Lodge # October 28, 2007 at 10:21 pm
“There is no mystery surrounding Ben (Franklin)”…..?
You’ve GOT to be kidding me.
Need I go back to one of your first incredibly long, tedious comments where you fully contradicted that statement by agreeing with me?
Listen….you have fully, 100% subscribed to a completely panic-stricken belief system that allows you to trust NOone. You assume that ANY affiliation with an organization that has ANY connection to a government agency, a clandestine fraternity, or even simply a bueracracy of any sort makes someone untrustworthy and it is immediately assumed that said connection makes that person part of a conspiracy to get one over the common man. Yet, you “fight”, argue, and most predominantly BLOG over and over in defense of the very articles devised, created and defended by the exact people you claim to be part of this greater conspiracy. My Argument has NEVER been the Ben Franklin or his cohorts were 100% benevolent do-gooders hellbent on constructing a Utopian society in which all men are truly treated as equals. But to suggest that because you fully understand the intentions, goals and objectives of ANY single person who existed 250 years in the past is absolutely ludacris. I had a conversation with you, Untrueman, ages ago in which I proposed the very question we’re discussing right now. I asked, if we are to all be constantly fighting to defend the constitution and bill of rights yet we are so fearful and untrusting of Freemasonry, the very fraternity from to which the men who’s brainchild these documents were the fruit of payed their strongest allegiences, is that not a contradiction of belief systems. THAT is the question I proposed to YOU. Your argument is not new or unique. You are not clever and witty by devising and proposing such an idea on this site. It is the question I asked of you some weeks and weeks ago. And you agreed that this is a very interesting and perplexing question. Because the truth is that not you, not any researcher, not even Alex Jones has their finger pressed down firmly on what exactly were the REAL intentions of these obviously brilliant men. But my shirt raises the question, al be it, in an incredibly subtle manner, “who the fuck WAS Ben Franklin” ? Because I’ve never been given a convincing answer and I’m sorry, my make-believe expert friend, but your answer is dismissing mountains of evidence pointing in the exact opposite direction of your dogmatic approach to every subject in this arena.
You claim to not be attacking me but that’s EXACTLY what you’re doing. Trying to come down on me like I’m an idiot as you float on this mystical cloud of all-knowingness you sit upon when all you’re REALLY doing is sitting in a cyber-cave all day long pulling quotes and information from different websites.
It is a T-Shirt…and I think it’s an awesome image. And to MOST people, that’s all it is going to be. But to the few who pay attention, it will be much more than that and can strike up interesting conversations with people on subways, school buses and classrooms.
Comment by Theorizer # October 29, 2007 at 2:08 am
Theorizer, FOR THE WIN!
Seriously though, this guy is taking this a little TOO far here. Sure, Ben Franklin was into some serious shit, but as the Theorizer said, Franklin’s contributions to America should never be overlooked. Regardless of his affiliations, he introduced many integral parts to this government. (albeit, a shady government) And I will not discount these significant additions to our nation.
And again, to quote Theorizer, “you have fully, 100% subscribed to a completely panic-stricken belief system that allows you to trust NOone…or even simply a bueracracy of any sort makes someone untrustworthy and it is immediately assumed that said connection makes that person part of a conspiracy to get one over the common man.” By reading the LONG posts above, I must agree. You are talking about someone who died like 217 years ago. Perhaps his goal wasnt completely a “utopian society, where all men are treated as equals”, but I certainly wont say that he helped to create this government merely for the sole purpose of the advancement of the Freemasons.
Given, he was a freemason, but thats about all I can give you. You say that you arent attacking, etc. But you should really re-think your plan of debate. To talk down to our host AND us is not the correct way of winning an argument. Or even getting your point across fully and youve done it on a number of occasions.
Also, Ive read through your posts multiple times on this topic and I think you def contradicted yourself a FEW times. Go back and read through. Let me know if you agree.
Like I said earlier, there is a good and bad way to conduct an argument/debate. I think you have chosen the low road by some veiled name calling and the such. Sure, we may not all be as versed as you in the ways of the Freemasons and the CFR. But trust, most of the people who come here, (and I would guess 99% that would buy the shirt) at least have a SLIGHT idea about Ben Franklin’s SUPPOSED past. And if not, most of us here have that thirst for knowledge where we would go and research and try to connect as to why Josh would use this image for his first shirt.
Or maybe Im giving the audience too much credit too? I dont think so though.
Comment by Jura # October 29, 2007 at 7:09 am
Oh, the shirt fit great. Sizes stay true. American apparel is worth the price, IMO. I mean, that arent many, if any, companies where you know that the garments are 100% made in America. Is there?
Comment by Jura # October 29, 2007 at 7:12 am
Ben Franklin’s allegiances and intentions for the young republic are well documented. All you have to do is read about Ben Franklin and you will find out who Ben Franklin was. There is no mystery. These “questions” are answerable ones, but only if you seek the answer.
The answer is simple, control. The Founding Fathers were not stupid. Government has always been about control. Control of your own destiny and most times everyone else’s. Take Jefferson for instance. He owned slaves. I mean you want to talk about contradictory?
Doesn’t the outcome explain the means here? The debate between Republicanism and Federalism, Democracy or Socialism is an old one, raging since the time’s of the Greek city state, i.e. Plato’s Republic. I think it is safe to say that the end justifies the means. And like I said fictionalized control of this government has been a battle raging since it’s very inception.
And Jura, there is no “winning” here. Isn’t this, “you have fully, 100% subscribed to a completely panic-stricken belief system that allows you to trust NOone…or even simply a bureaucracy of any sort makes someone untrustworthy and it is immediately assumed that said connection makes that person part of a conspiracy to get one over the common man,” the whole point of the shirt? Roost in your “win.” I think I’ve made my points clear. Thanks for the conversation. I’ve learned a lot.
Comment by Harry S. Truman, 33rd degree mason of the Scottish Rite and Grand Master of the Missouri Lodge # October 29, 2007 at 8:36 am
I leave you lastly with a quote. Thanks again for your participation. “A time comes when silence is betrayal.” -Martin Luther King
Comment by Harry S. Truman, 33rd degree mason of the Scottish Rite and Grand Master of the Missouri Lodge # October 29, 2007 at 3:13 pm
I dont think thats the point of the shirt, do you? I think Theorizer explained it pretty well.
Comment by Jura # October 29, 2007 at 4:08 pm
Then Jura, what do you think the shirt means? Isn’t making a statement like this about me, “You have fully, 100% subscribed to a completely panic-stricken belief system that allows you to trust NOone. You assume that ANY affiliation with an organization that has ANY connection to a government agency, a clandestine fraternity, or even simply a bueracracy of any sort makes someone untrustworthy and it is immediately assumed that said connection makes that person part of a conspiracy to get one over the common man,” the whole motivation behind the shirt?
That is some accusation first off, yet is it not the point of the shirt? Isn’t it that if Benjamin Franklin was such a high ranking Freemason, hence “ANY affiliation with an organization that has ANY connection to a government agency, a clandestine fraternity, or even simply a bueracracy,” then what, the shirt is suggesting, if you can call it that, was his role and intentions as one of our Founding Fathers? Essentially, friend or foe? Hence, the “un-trustworthiness and immediate assumption that said connection makes that person part of a conspiracy to get one over the common man.” Am I wrong? Then why, and I quote from post 4, “OfCOURSE I’ve considered the things you’re proposing. Hence the t-shirt for Theories seen above.”
Jura, let me ask you a question. If you had a choice to cast a vote for two candidates, one being a high ranking Freemason, an ex-director of the Central Intelligence Agency and owned his own oil company and the other was an obstetrician in Texas, and, let’s assume, that you don’t have stock in the oil company, you don’t work for the Federal Government (or do you?), (I’m referencing taxes, not that Jura’s a fed), and you’re not an aspiring Freemason, which one would you vote for?
Comment by Harry S. Truman, 33rd degree mason of the Scottish Rite and Grand Master of the Missouri Lodge # October 29, 2007 at 6:59 pm
Whichever one is more inline with my views. I CANNOT disregard anyone REGARDLESS of their affiliations with the shady goings on of the world. (the Freemasons) But I guess you want me to say the obstetrician from Texas, (ie Ron Paul) right?
Im in no place comment too heavily on the Freemasons and their effects on the world. As I have only recently found myself attracted to the subject. But maybe thats why the shirt should appeal to most. It makes you think. Perhaps to you, someone with more knowledge on the subject than your average visitor to this site, you see it as something more than it really is. To most, I believe, it does its job, which is to make people wonder, why? No matter what you (whomever) feel about Ben Franklin, the shirt DOES make you ask questions.
And I didnt mean to offend by quoting Theorizer. To me, by reading your posts, it seems that your knowledge of the Freemasons makes you see things different from me. And obviously you have a deep rooted disdain for the Freemasons and what they have done through out our history. For me, I CANT feel that. I dont have enough knowledge on the subject. Again, no offense meant.
Are you saying thats why this shirt design is bad? Because a layman like me, who doesnt know much about the subject, is out there promoting Ben Franklin to a certain degree?
As for the shirt, I think its merely a thought provoking, conversation starter. I think its point is just make people think, “why the fuck is Ben Franklin on the Theories shirt”?
Let me know if I made absolutely NO sense. Thank you.
Comment by Jura # October 29, 2007 at 7:46 pm
Well hold on. I never said that the design was “bad,” did I? I said I thought it missed it’s mark and that it was potentially dangerous and misleading. Confusing, if you will. And to quote you, “To most, I believe, it does its job, which is to make people wonder, why?” So you believe that that’s its job? To make people “wonder why?” Why Ben Franklin is on a shirt that says “Theories” on it?
Hence the Martin Luther King quote. If you’re gonna wear a shirt, at least wear one that gets to the point. Be prepared to explain or defend why you’re wearing it. You know Jura, I mean no offense. I wasn’t offended that you quoted Theorizer, I was more offended that you had to quote Theorizer. In all honesty, you are the only person who has put their two cents in and I appreciate that, but I also think it speaks volumes.
Comment by Harry S. Truman, 33rd degree mason of the Scottish Rite and Grand Master of the Missouri Lodge # October 29, 2007 at 11:31 pm
weak
Comment by D # October 30, 2007 at 4:59 am
Damn, you spoke too soon. A true visionary rears his disgraced head to add his 2 cents, D.
Comment by Blue and Gold # October 30, 2007 at 6:31 am
D minus, D’eez nuts.
Comment by Slap # October 30, 2007 at 7:27 am
What I meant by a “bad” design, you actually clarified. (”missed its mark, potentially misleading”) And you answered my question, I think…
Its not necessarily the shirt, but the person wearing the shirt, right? You feel the person wearing it should have a higher knowledge of Ben Franklin and the workings of the Freemasons, so as to not “mislead” people into thinking BF was a patriot and hero?
Rather, you want to make sure the correct story is told.(?) The story of his allegiance to the Masonic brotherhood and how his help in creating the new world, was simply a way to further the Freemasons.
Am I way off here? Your “defend” comment about the shirt is what led me to this conclusion. There should be nothing to defend, unless of course, I have to defend it to someone who thinks Ben Franklin is a good-for-nothing Freemason, whose only goal in creating the new world, was to expand the Masonic brotherhoods grip across the world.
That I understand, he was a Mason, but he was also a main architect in creating the United States of America. For me, I am more worried about what these secret societies are up to TODAY. Sure, Ben Franklin helped them along in the beginning, but he died in 1790. Can he be held 100% accountable for what has happened since?
As I stated before, perhaps all these questions Im asking HAVE concrete answers. I just dont have the knowledge to answer them all yet.
sidenote: about people not engaging in the discussion, that you think “speaks volumes”. Having a discussion isnt easy when youre short on knowledge about the subject. So that immediately will keep people from really jumping into this thread. ALSO, a verbal discussion is hard enough, writing this shit down is even harder. Im having a hard time getting my point across as well. (thats why I continuously ask, “am i making sense”)I think you would find more people engaged in the discussion if we were all in the same room together.
Comment by Jura # October 30, 2007 at 8:23 am
ill buy your video but i cant really fuck with all these political views and freemason bullshit. ignorance really is bliss. all these opinions are making my head hurt
Comment by D # October 31, 2007 at 10:47 am
I cannot almost not blame you “D”.
But that’s why there are blog posts that satisfy many different viewpoints and interests.
So, if the political or conspiracy-based posts are a bit tedious, which this one has certainly pushed that envelope, there are atleast other things to keep you busy on this site.
Thanks for the comment regardless.
Comment by Theorizer # October 31, 2007 at 11:48 am
Ignorance is total enslavement. Conciousness is bliss.
Comment by Disobey Park Sign # October 31, 2007 at 6:39 pm
You can also suck on your thumb.
Comment by Alfred P. Murrah # October 31, 2007 at 7:52 pm
Not at all, I could care less about the person wearing the shirt. The more Josh sells, the better. The shirt doesn’t necessarily do anything in my eyes. It may sell a brand called “Theories,” it may start a conversation. It may just be a “cool” shirt. But only if a conversation is started on the point of the shirt will the information being discussed in this forum become pertinent. I think that the question Josh is posing with the shirt is an answerable one. Josh thinks it is not, hence the shirt.
Really, all you have to do is study Freemasonry, the beliefs of BF, the Founding Fathers, the aims of our government and the function of any government, whether real or perceived, and you’ve got your answer. Granted, we may all not agree with one another. But that is why you research a topic, to try to answer questions. To learn and understand why things happen the way they do. All learning is based on information, whether it is intuitive or not, and that information is the building blocks of your viewpoint.
So yes and no, you don’t need to know about Ben Franklin to buy or wear the shirt. I just think that “most” people won’t pick up on what the shirt is attempting to say. I think it is an extremely valid question that the shirt is asking, but like I said, I believe it’s a.) answerable and b.) has been answered.
And to ease your worries, those “secret societies” are up to exactly the same things they were up to 200 years ago. Read about it. I suggest Manly P. Hall, Thomas Paine, A. Ralph Epperson, A New Encyclopedia of Freemasonry, W.L. Wilmshurst, Jim Marrs, blah blah blah, the list goes on and on. Thanks for your patience.
Comment by Harry S. Truman, 33rd degree mason of the Scottish Rite and Grand Master of the Missouri Lodge # October 31, 2007 at 8:26 pm