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Sunday, October 18, 2009

New “Theory 11″ Shirt, available now!

19 men board 4 planes. Weilding box-cutters and some mediocre flight training, they breach the cabin wrestling the controls from hijack-trained pilots with no problems. No hijack codes are tripped on any of the planes. The highest-funded military in the world fails 4 separate times to engage the planes and flight 11 and 175 smash into Towers 1 & 2 of the World Trade Center complex at 440 and 540 mph.

2 buildings standing at 110 stories, specifically designed to withstand the impact of TWO fully loaded passenger jets, inexplicably collapse at just over free-fall speed, disintegrating into themselves. The world stands in silence. The plan has worked with military precision. The stage is set. The ritual has begun.

by Theorizer at 5:55 pm  

135 Comments »

  1. http://www.cyberlawcentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/always-know-where-your-towel-is.jpg

    Comment by Towel 1 and Towel 2 # October 18, 2009 at 7:03 pm

  2. http://www.sublimited.net/images/chad_muska_glazed.jpg

    Comment by Wino # October 18, 2009 at 8:50 pm

  3. You should make a shirt with actual comments from one of the better posts from this website on it. Like a shirt that looks exactly like the screen you’re looking at now, but from a post where TWL or someone else is throwing some kind of craze, or just the nastiest and funniest shit talking that anyone’s done on here.

    Comment by Seabreeze # October 18, 2009 at 9:57 pm

  4. http://content.dogfunk.com/images/items/medium/COA/COA0126/YBBRN.jpg

    Comment by Seabreeze # October 18, 2009 at 10:30 pm

  5. Oooo, wow! The shirts look awesome, Theorizer!
    Good job on the shirts man.
    Hey, those shirts are tight, I want one!
    Cool shirts!

    Comment by Theorizer # October 18, 2009 at 11:46 pm

  6. Oooo, wow! The shirts look awesome, Theorizer!
    Good job on the shirts man.
    Hey, those shirts are tight, I want one!
    Cool shirts!

    Comment by Jura # October 19, 2009 at 6:56 am

  7. Jesus……Anyways the shirts are on point, i’ll be coping one asap.

    Comment by Ray # October 19, 2009 at 9:12 am

  8. Towel, you should give it up.

    Comment by God # October 19, 2009 at 9:53 am

  9. I’m on it.

    Comment by Towel's 1 and 2 # October 19, 2009 at 11:02 am

  10. You should give it down.

    Comment by Towel's 1 and 2 # October 19, 2009 at 11:02 am

  11. Those shirts look good. I just have one question, it may sound dumb but I’ve never been to NY or the USA for that matter. In any case, I just wanted to know what the deal is concerning images that depict the twin towers. Various movies, TV shows and photos, etc which captured the NY skyline before 9/11 have since been edited to show the current skyline with no towers. Would you say that this is because people find the image too hurtful and they would rather forget it? From my perspective they should be kept as a reminder of a day that changed the world rather than removed from all media and forgotten. I just find it odd. The economy of my country went to hell after 9/11 just like everywhere else and when people here see the NY skyline, towers depicted or not, they remember. So why go to all the effort of the cover up? Maybe you guys don’t even realise that this happens, after all we still get pre 9/11 shows and what not, in certain places, but you probably only get more recent stuff.

    Comment by Luke # October 19, 2009 at 1:22 pm

  12. Towel, you fail

    Comment by God # October 19, 2009 at 7:54 pm

  13. And have always failed

    Comment by God # October 19, 2009 at 7:54 pm

  14. At everything.

    Comment by God # October 19, 2009 at 7:54 pm

  15. Even my failures are successes.

    Comment by Towel # October 20, 2009 at 6:14 am

  16. Luke, I’ve found that the removal of the TT’s from films and television shows/advertisement’s was only a phenomenon found directly after 9/11. I can’t remember or am not aware of too many films that have had the TT’s edited out that were not in either production at the time or post production. Granted, I’m not saying it hasn’t happened and to think that there is not a concerted effort made to manipulate media in either direction is naive. Some call it “propaganda placement” and it is akin to product placement in media. That said, have you seen this, http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/jjmnolte/2009/10/15/leaked-memo-reveals-the-white-house-has-control-of-your-television-set/

    Comment by Mitciva Uoyera # October 20, 2009 at 6:29 am

  17. Luke, I just realized I didn’t really answer your question. I lived in NY during 9/11 and agree that the decision to remove the Trade Center in any of those films being produced only made sense to the people in charge of production. It was a deeply traumatic wound to the people of the city of New York as well as to people worldwide depending on your mindset. One thing to remember is although 9/11 triggered a very obvious and noticeable dip in the well being of certain industries and the economies of most countries, as well as the overall “global economy”, 9/11 was not responsible for the “collapse” of the economy we witnessed a year ago, nor is it responsible for the “recession” or the current “crisis”, that has yet really even begun to unfold. That is all done by design.

    Comment by Mitciva Uoyera # October 20, 2009 at 6:47 am

  18. Sometimes it’s even marked with occult symbols and markers, http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/29/national/main4485321.shtml

    Comment by Mitciva Uoyera # October 20, 2009 at 6:50 am

  19. Indeed, I do realise that 9/11 is not responsible for the the current economic decline. However, I am currently studying Economics and I recently read reports on an economic downturn which occurred post 9/11 in the country where I live, which was directly related to world market shocks following the event. This highlights the vast interconnectivity of different countries and their financial markets and in essence their reliance on eachother in the preservation of general well being. Something which has a direct impact on 1 group has the potential to effect everyone due to the knock-on-effect of our intertwined economies (and our connected dependency for that matter).

    On a slightly different note, recessions don’t just happen and while they may not always be intentional (can occur due to information lags which obscure the knowledge and understanding of economic decision makers), they can be caused intentionally. While the media portray the picture that everyone is suffering, there are many individuals who actually gain a lot from recessions, for example by buying up stocks and shares at considerably low prices. I get annoyed when the picture gets painted that their is hopelessness and despair, people created and run the economic systems, they can fix them if they really want to, the question is: do the people in power really want to? (There is a couple theories in that alone).

    Comment by Luke # October 20, 2009 at 11:24 am

  20. Presumably they do, to the extent that they are blamed for current economic conditions. They like power, and they don’t like being ousted by their constituents, whether democratically or otherwise.

    Comment by Seabreeze # October 20, 2009 at 4:28 pm

  21. Damn, how much did you have to pay those shirt models? Shirts are dope. Let’s get a towel tee! All over print of all the “hilarious” posts he’s left on the site. If only there were a tshirt big enough..

    I’ll admit I had a laugh when I saw the “Even my failures are successes.” line though. Witty guy, that Towel. Prettyyyy witty.

    Comment by Psyched Floridian # October 20, 2009 at 6:36 pm

  22. Whoa, how far deep you gonna let him go in your throat?

    Comment by Jesus Christ # October 20, 2009 at 7:05 pm

  23. That’s a dumb idea. Obviously if it came out of your head it’s not a good idea though.

    Comment by God # October 20, 2009 at 7:06 pm

  24. im picking up one of these very soon! fucking sick

    Comment by Scott Palocsik # October 20, 2009 at 8:22 pm

  25. So Luke, lemme guess, in response to your first paragraph, I would say your “institution” is conditioning(”teaching”) you that a “global government” and “world economic body” is the solution. Problem/Reaction/Solution. You see how this works? Study the way the banksters got the Federal Reserve Act passed.
    In response to your second paragraph, I have two words, Goldman Sachs. The Fed/Goldman Sachs/”Dept. of the Treasury” is the shadow government. It operates from behind the scenes to the public a.) because it cannot be audited, and b.) because it is supranational and PRIVATELY OWNED. In fact, no one really knows who owns it. Or at least the public doesn’t. Also, as Alan Greenspan outlined on Newshour, The Fed answers to no one. Not you(well you’re not “American”), not me, not Congress. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVmxQsvj6lo&feature=related
    Check out Fed chairman Ben Bernanke outlining the power of the Fed to Sen. Bernie Sanders in this clip, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xMTdczlTgM&feature=player_embedded
    Finally, this clip outlines some of the vast powers and provisions enabled by the ILLEGAL Federal Reserve Act of 1913,
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00ECLxK2YTs
    You see, since no one knows who the shareholders in The Fed are, it could be (and it probably is) the same people who control the other central banks around the globe. This whole “system” has basically been consolidated into the IMF and The World Bank. Don’t forget, The World Bank, as well as the IMF was created by the Bretton Woods Agreement in 1944. So this is no “new” institution. Bretton Woods basically set the stage for our “current”(well not anymore) “global economy”(pardon the generalizations). Anyhow, many are calling for “Bretton Woods 2″, which is basically bullshit because the system is basically already in place after we saw the IMF create SDR’s(look it up, I don’t have that much time to spend on this pathetic website). Anyhow, with the dollar out as the reserve currency, http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/dollar_loses_reserve_status_to_yen_hFyfwvpBW1YYLykSJwTTEL;jsessionid=65E301CF47ED50D15170F8D6530791C5
    it’s basically the end of the “United States” as “we knew it”. All of this was done according to plan to usher in what Gordan Brown calls a “new economic world order” and inflate the new bubble of a new world fiat currency and new global ponzi scheme. A final consolidation of power if you will. A “New World Order”. The big question is “who will “regulate” this system?” My guess is “the same folks who controlled the last one.”

    Comment by Mitciva Uoyera # October 20, 2009 at 8:29 pm

  26. 9/11 was to consolidate control over natural resources(G.O.D. = Gold, Oil and Drugs) and to usher in a global police state. They’re gonna need something to control the masses when they find out their money isn’t worth shit.

    Comment by Mitciva Uoyera # October 20, 2009 at 8:33 pm

  27. Haven’t you ever seen Freedom to Fascism or The Money Masters? Search engine them, you can watch them on the World Wide Web. But remember, it ain’t called “the web” for nothing. Happy surfing.

    Comment by Mitciva Uoyera # October 20, 2009 at 8:36 pm

  28. http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/5309/AftertheRabbit.gif

    Comment by Mitciva Uoyera # October 20, 2009 at 8:43 pm

  29. My apologies about calling this website “pathetic”. I should have said “sleeping”. Or at least snoozing. Some of you at least. Some of you have your fingers jammed way up your asses. Some of you are fucking wet brained. But alas, there is hope. I think. I hope.

    Comment by Mitciva Uoyera # October 20, 2009 at 9:01 pm

  30. Betta watch out… http://www.infowars.com/cia-to-monitor-internet-chatter-for-anti-government-sentiment/

    Comment by Mitciva Uoyera # October 20, 2009 at 9:19 pm

  31. Dey gonna get choo!!!

    Comment by Mitciva Uoyera # October 20, 2009 at 9:20 pm

  32. Also, for anyone who followed that Times article I posted about those Israeli “art students”, here’s a follow up, http://truthalliance.net/Archive/tabid/67/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/3790/Default.aspx

    Comment by Mitciva Uoyera # October 20, 2009 at 9:25 pm

  33. And for all you French faggots, http://world911truth.org/historic-911-debate-with-bigard-laurent-kassovitz-and-harrit-on-french-tv/

    Comment by Mitciva Uoyera # October 20, 2009 at 9:26 pm

  34. Ithink Ihope.

    Comment by Mitciva Uoyera # October 20, 2009 at 9:27 pm

  35. Ithink Ihope the isotope.

    Comment by Mitciva Uoyera # October 20, 2009 at 9:28 pm

  36. Also, if you like all this shit I’m posting on here now, check out my blob, http://www.areyouavictim.com
    I have a couple of radical clippages up on there right now, one about the United States being a corporation and the other about 30 things your bitch ass don’t be knowin’ about the ole U.S. of A(A being short for Assholes). I also reposted the film my bitch ass posted on this hole, called The New Atlantis. So if you didn’t see it on this dump, check it out on dat one. It’s key shit. Peep it. Peace, faggots.

    Comment by Mitciva Uoyera # October 20, 2009 at 9:40 pm

  37. wait,did someone hear something?

    Comment by turbo towel # October 20, 2009 at 10:55 pm

  38. Dude, how many times does one have to tell you fools this. It is not Kosher to post under someone else’s name. No towel, no turbo, no turbo towel unless you the towel. What is so goddamned difficult to understand about this? Follow the rule tool.

    Comment by Mitciva Uoyera # October 21, 2009 at 4:54 am

  39. Luke, I was actually leaving out a core function of the police state. I said that the police state was necessary to put down outrage when people find out that our money is worthless. Well technically, our money is already worthless. Our money is fiat, meaning it’s not backed by anything accept faith. But fiat currency doesn’t necessarily not work. It can work fine. What I meant by worthless, is that it has little buying power, mostly due to loss in faith by other countries and inflation. Inflation is caused when there is so much money in circulation that it drives down the value of that currency(i.e. bailout). The police state is absolutely most necessary to protect the off shore banksters from using that fiat currency to loot the nation of it’s remaining infrastructure, while at the same time they devalue the dollar. When people realize what has been going on in this country for the last 100 years, they’re gonna be pissed. Unless you get a lot of politicians and heads of state calling for reform and then they pacify you with THEIR solution to the problem which is a bigger, more grandiose scheme(”World Currency”), which is the be all/end all of schemes(cause there’s no one else to challenge it and you can’t do shit unless you’re a part of it) and you get your ability to drink your beer and watch your monday night football back and you go right back to sleep. Same thing they did with Barrack Obama after 8 years of George Bush. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw

    Comment by Mitciva Uoyera # October 21, 2009 at 5:29 am

  40. the towel reminds me of a pedifile

    Comment by gangsta shit # October 21, 2009 at 1:05 pm

  41. ‘fiat currency doesn’t necessarily not work. It can work fine.’ Hahahahaha–it’s been working fine for decades now. I love that you had to acknowledge this.

    Also, when you write about the strength of the dollar, are you referring to the value of the dollar relative to other currencies? The reason why I ask is because sometimes the dollar is relatively weak and sometimes it’s relatively strong. When it’s weak, then exporters do well and consumers who want to buy imported goods are kind of out of luck, right? By the same token, a strong dollar is good for anyone who wants to consume imported goods and bad for exporters. It’s not clear to me that either of these situations is preferable to the other. In other words, what is the problem with a weak dollar?

    Comment by Seabreeze # October 21, 2009 at 1:17 pm

  42. Luckily my institution works through correspondence on the web, so I don’t have to listen to Economists preaching their supposed economic solutions in person. I actually think economics is a very dry topic but I definately see the value in trying to understand it better. I never intend to actually become an economist. I obviously don’t think the solution is easy to find, after all, the system is so technical and confused that half the people working in the system can’t understand the whole picture but rather just do their little bit, not too bothered about the grand scheme. I mean when you have instances like the modern day Alchemists selling share options on share options, it’s no wonder things get so difficult to comprehend and predict. I don’t feel I’m in the position to accurately predict or instruct which direction things should go in, but it’s important for all people to try and gain some understanding of this web of intangible systems that have a real effect on their lives, whether they choose to acknowledge it or not. At the end of the day, I see the value in people having varying opinions and expressing them, so that collectively people can try and come to a coherent understanding. When it all becomes too much, skateboarding becomes the best form of escapism.

    Comment by Luke # October 21, 2009 at 3:21 pm

  43. Just to clarify, I don’t think there should be 1 world economic body. I feel as though power is dangerous and it often leads to mistreatment. I think there should always be discussion and negotiation in order to better understanding and development. If one body controls everything, their power is absolute and that is a very scarey prospect. I guess the old saying comes to mind: “power corrupts and absolute power, corrupts absolutely”. People must always be accountable for their actions and for that to happen they need to fear the repercussions of their abuse of power.

    Comment by Luke # October 21, 2009 at 3:35 pm

  44. No one knows how to completely iron out the kinks of the business cycle, and there is very little policymakers can do to restore growth after recessions have begun.

    Comment by Seabreeze # October 21, 2009 at 3:43 pm

  45. Seabreeze, my point exactly. Fiat currency has been working “fine” for some time now. Since August 15, 1971 to be exact. The problem is that OUR CURRENCY, as stated by the Constitution FOR The United States, Article 1, Section 8, is now lent back to us at interest by The Federal Reserve since 1913. JFK tried to put a stop to the Fed but was stopped short by the November 1963 assassination. Anyone see any connection? I’m glad you see the humor in this because I can’t.
    2. Regarding the “strength of the dollar”, I’m speaking specifically in terms of inflation. Specifically, hyper-stagflation. I think the problems with a weak dollar combined with all of the other factors affecting “our economy” right now(record unemployment, an unprecedented decline in production, record taxes, bank bailouts, bubble’s “bursting”, Cap and Trade schemes, 9/11’s, the Fed via the mint printing record amounts of fiat currency and record amounts of this fiat currency in circulation) are obvious. The question is, “has this been done by design?” Based on what I know about how money works, it is absolutely plausible. So if that is the case, then we must examine a.) who is calling for reform, b.) who foots the bill and most importantly, c.) “Cui Bono” or “who benefits?” Hence my answer, Goldman Sachs and Co., the main agents for the international banksters in this “country”. Thanks for the interest in my comments and for your response.

    Comment by Mitciva Uoyera # October 21, 2009 at 4:52 pm

  46. Here’s an interesting and rare MSM article on the truth behind our current currency situation, http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/ContrarianChronicles/your-dollars-are-just-monopoly-money.aspx

    Comment by Mitciva Uoyera # October 21, 2009 at 4:54 pm

  47. Luke, we are all inherently economists. We are also all integrally alchemists.

    Comment by Mitciva Uoyera # October 21, 2009 at 4:58 pm

  48. The quote is actually “tends to corrupt absolutely”, but yes, you are correct.

    Comment by Mitciva Uoyera # October 21, 2009 at 5:00 pm

  49. It’s called a “scientific dictatorship”.

    Comment by Mitciva Uoyera # October 21, 2009 at 5:01 pm

  50. Ever read any George Orwell?

    Comment by Mitciva Uoyera # October 21, 2009 at 5:01 pm

  51. I suggest checking him out.

    Comment by Mitciva Uoyera # October 21, 2009 at 5:01 pm

  52. You too Seatbreeze.

    Comment by Mitciva Uoyera # October 21, 2009 at 5:02 pm

  53. Also, Alan Watt. Not to be confused with Alan Watts, but he good too.

    Comment by Mitciva Uoyera # October 21, 2009 at 5:04 pm

  54. David Icke, Michael Tsarion, G. Edward Griffin and Jordan Maxwell as well. Good luck.

    Comment by Mitciva Uoyera # October 21, 2009 at 5:05 pm

  55. So fiat currency has been working or it hasn’t? I think you’re suggesting that it’s the latter, and that it has to do with our alleged paying of interest to the fed, or something. But if the problem of us having to pay some kind of interest to the fed has been with us since 1913, i.e. before money was fiat currency, then again, it’s not clear what the problem with fiat currency is. And is inflation really that high right now? I thought it had been a long time since the US economy had problems with inflation. And I know unemployment is nowhere near record levels.

    And sorry, but we are not all inherently economists. I know this sounds really assholeish to you, but it’s crazy to suggest that we all kind of get economics. For instance, the economics profession is nearly unanimous in its support for an abolition of trade barriers, but the general public is nowhere near that supportive. Like, trade barriers are obviously completely stupid to economists, and from what I’ve seen, the case for free trade is often highly counterintuitive, i.e. it really helps to use a model to see why trade barriers should be abolished. People just don’t think about these things on their own the way an economists do. This is one example of very, very many of how the average person wouldn’t reach the same conclusion about an economic question as a trained economist would.

    Comment by Seabreeze # October 21, 2009 at 6:36 pm

  56. Oh, and let me add that I did not intuitively get the case for free trade before I sat down with a textbook either, so I’m not trying to claim that I have some kind of intuition that most non-economists don’t have. In fact, this is nowhere near true. In other words, I basically believe that we are not all inherently economists in part because I have seen how much I needed a formal treatment of economics to ever learn anything.

    Comment by Seabreeze # October 21, 2009 at 6:40 pm

  57. Here’s another example of the public not getting economics:
    http://www.marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2009/10/going-galt.html
    The reason why I say that the public doesn’t get it here is because there is widespread support for policies like this right about now, but to an economist, they’re again completely stupid. In this case, I think the mistake would be to assume that executives at the corporations in question are not in fact sophisticated agents who respond to incentives, but rather idiots who are going to sit there and take the public lashing that is about to be legislated. A ton of policies would be wiped off of the books overnight if the general public thought like economists did and assumed ex ante that in general, people and corporations are something like rational, and so are normally at least one step ahead of the dumb regulators.

    Comment by Seabreeze # October 21, 2009 at 6:49 pm

  58. Towel, you smell.

    Comment by God # October 21, 2009 at 7:26 pm

  59. Blah, Blah, Blah. Don’t make a mountain out of a mole hill. It’s not my problem you desire scrambled eggs every time you see a chicken. What is so difficult to comprehend? History is history. Go read about how the Federal Reserve Act was passed. Read about “The Aldrich Plan”.

    Comment by Mitciva Uoyera # October 21, 2009 at 7:46 pm

  60. Yes, fiat currency works if it is only an agreed upon tool for those people who agree to it’s terms is used to “benefit” from. It doesn’t work work when a group of people charge interest illegally on it. That’s called USURY. Ever heard of it?

    Comment by Mitciva Uoyera # October 21, 2009 at 7:53 pm

  61. You shoulda been a lawyer.

    Comment by Mitciva Uoyera # October 21, 2009 at 7:53 pm

  62. “God” you’re a fucking genius.

    Comment by Mitciva Uoyera # October 21, 2009 at 7:55 pm

  63. Not understanding how money works and “economics” are two entirely separate things. Just because people don’t understand how money works, doesn’t mean they should be taken advantage of.

    Comment by Mitciva Uoyera # October 21, 2009 at 7:57 pm

  64. In short Seabreeze, I believe your failing to see the larger picture here. My apologies if you took offense at anything that might have hurt your sensitive ego.

    Comment by Mitciva Uoyera # October 21, 2009 at 8:00 pm

  65. In short, listen to Helicopter’s words. He said, “it’s authorized because Congress passed the Federal Reserve Act”. Like I said, go and read about how the Federal Reserve Act was passed.

    Comment by Mitciva Uoyera # October 21, 2009 at 8:03 pm

  66. In short, In short, In short.

    Comment by Mitciva Uoyera # October 21, 2009 at 8:08 pm

  67. In short, never film in shorts.

    Comment by Mitciva Uoyera # October 21, 2009 at 8:08 pm

  68. “God”, I smell like your mother’s birth canal. Sorry bout that.

    Comment by Mitciva Uoyera # October 21, 2009 at 8:11 pm

  69. This is like shooting fish in a barrel.

    Comment by Mitciva Uoyera # October 21, 2009 at 8:13 pm

  70. And you shouldn’t film if you have blond hair.

    Comment by God # October 21, 2009 at 9:00 pm

  71. Or if your black right?

    Comment by God # October 21, 2009 at 9:00 pm

  72. 59. I wasn’t asking about history, I was asking about what you were claiming the problem was with fiat currency, and I wasn’t even being an asshole about it. Pardon me for not wanting to watch a four hour movie; I figured that if you are as concerned about the problems with fiat currency as you sound, then you should at least understand the nature of those problems well, and so you should be able to explain them to me or anyone else on here. As it is written, this comment makes me how well you understand the problems you refer to.
    Also, you basically ignored my question about whether a strong dollar was desirable or not, and why–throwing a bunch of big concepts together in a sentence and calling an explanation doesn’t count.

    60. Let’s go through this one carefully: ‘Yes, fiat currency works if it is only an agreed upon tool for those people who agree to it’s terms is used to “benefit” from.’ This does not make any sense. Let’s continue: ‘It doesn’t work work when a group of people charge interest illegally on it.’ But you said the fed had been doing so since before our money was fiat currency, and you also said that fiat currency had been ‘working’ (?) since its inception–contradiction! ‘That’s called USURY. Ever heard of it?’ Whatever, a little bit, but not as much as your favorite radio host might prefer.

    64. I think that my comments 55. and 56. were written in a tone that is quite non-egotistical. Just in case you can’t spot the self-deprecation upon a re-read, let me repeat my comment 56. in other words: I’m not naturally talented when it comes to learning these kinds of things. I’m quite comfortable with all this–it doesn’t matter to me. So when you write about me and my ego, it sounds to me like we’ve had a misunderstanding.
    Again, I don’t know why you’re so opposed to just explaining the ‘larger picture’ to me. I mean, I’m willing to listen with an open mind, but you just always write that bullshit about how I should go and read some historical document or watch a four hour movie myself. It makes me think that you have no idea how to explain the problems that you rail on about, because you’re all about sharing information anyway, right? I mean, you wouldn’t just be informing me, you’d be informing all the other flouridated water drinking idiots that post here. Isn’t that kind of what it’s all about? Isn’t that what you’re always yelling at Theorizer about? Of course it is, so just spill the beans and tell what the problem with fiat currency is. I mean, for the life of me I can’t see how learning ‘how the Federal Reserve Act was passed’ might shed some light on how we’re currently being taxed, or why fiat currency is bad. These things could certainly be explained better with a short description of some sort. Or not, but it is nowhere near clear why not, so again, explain.

    Comment by Seabreeze # October 21, 2009 at 10:05 pm

  73. Hey you stop filming you’re not allowed

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_4OE2LlxxWrc/Sk2W0HW3MgI/AAAAAAAAE2w/UG-HEwsJbtY/s1600-h/smajuliensubscribechrome.jpg

    Comment by Gobstopper # October 22, 2009 at 6:09 am

  74. Number 16. He has blonde hair.

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4OE2LlxxWrc/SXfhF1gQX7I/AAAAAAAADDg/kMuNFV4CoRc/s1600-h/natas15chrome.jpg

    Comment by Gobstopper # October 22, 2009 at 6:11 am

  75. http://www.sk8.com.br/br/images/conteudo/imgs/Z29EC_JERON-WILSON_KROOKS.jpg

    You should have never even started

    Comment by Godstopped # October 22, 2009 at 9:20 am

  76. and should just stop now

    Comment by Gangsta shit stopped God # October 22, 2009 at 9:23 am

  77. The Towel can save it

    Comment by Gangsta shit stopped God # October 22, 2009 at 9:24 am

  78. Are we allowing “Dirty Blondes” or do I need to go get hair dye?

    Comment by PennyPacker # October 22, 2009 at 9:53 am

  79. JarJar thinks there be some serious kookdem happening on dis here webbersite.
    Therrorizer please take the controls back from these silly children wif their retartar senses of humor.
    JarJar no like.

    Comment by JarJarBinx # October 22, 2009 at 9:55 am

  80. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blond

    Comment by PennyPacker # October 22, 2009 at 9:56 am

  81. Dude looks like a lady but goddamn

    http://img203.imageshack.us/i/dylanh.jpg/

    Comment by Tyler # October 22, 2009 at 1:59 pm

  82. you better fall back to daddy when you run out of shit to say you little bitch

    Comment by gangsta shit # October 22, 2009 at 3:55 pm

  83. Goddamn what? That shit is wack. Ollie impossibles? Clown shoes? Man fuck all that. I don’t give a what even if it was done over a bench. WACK!

    Comment by Towelness # October 22, 2009 at 3:59 pm

  84. “God”, not sure where you’re going with this.

    Comment by Towelness # October 22, 2009 at 3:59 pm

  85. Whoever’s linking to you can’t shit with a banana stuck in your ass, you’re a hardcore kook. You should ride for Kooked.

    Comment by Towelness # October 22, 2009 at 4:01 pm

  86. Jar-Jar, Tearorizer can’t stop this. He prolly eatin lunch with the Adidas phonies, those Redbull crooks, or the HBO suits. My boy is in Corpo-land and milkin every last minute of it. Get dat corporate money son! “As skateboarding is swallowed alive…”

    Comment by Towelness # October 22, 2009 at 4:08 pm

  87. Seabreeze, at this point you’re wasting my time. I really hope those eggs are scrambled enough for you. I’ve given you innumerable resources so that you can answer your own questions at this point. Whether you use them or not is up to you. Realistically, I don’t have the time to “explain it to you” right now. There are plenty of resources online. Use them. So, for the very last time, I told you what the problem with fiat currency OR ANY OTHER CURRENCY FOR THAT MATTER IS. THE PROBLEM IS THAT A PRIVATE ENTITY IS LENDING PEOPLE BACK THEIR OWN MONEY AT INTEREST AND PROFITING FROM IT. It is called usury, and up until the 16th amendment, it was illegal!!! GOOD NIGHT, SWEET DREAMS!

    Comment by Mitciva Uoyera # October 22, 2009 at 4:26 pm

  88. You want me to hold your hand, here, start by looking into The Supreme Court’s ruling on POLLOCK V. FARMERS’ LOAN & TRUST CO., 157 U. S. 429 (1895). Have fun!

    Comment by Mitciva Uoyera # October 22, 2009 at 4:27 pm

  89. This might help too, http://vodpod.com/watch/1941441-pt14-gerald-celente-on-the-alex-jones-show-22-july-2009
    Gerald Celente, rogue economist and trend forecaster. Excellent source, incredible accuracy. Listen to it. Or don’t.

    Comment by Mitciva Uoyera # October 22, 2009 at 4:34 pm

  90. Really, I’m not going to debate you. You can twist my words up all you want, but I believe I’m being extremely clear. Have a good one, nice talking at you.

    Comment by Mitciva Uoyera # October 22, 2009 at 4:35 pm

  91. skateboardings already been swallowed up a long time ago I don’t know where you’ve been

    Comment by ABD # October 22, 2009 at 4:51 pm

  92. “Hardcore Kook”

    Comment by Get it straight # October 22, 2009 at 4:52 pm

  93. Essentially what I’m saying Seatbreeze, is that it doesn’t matter if we have “a strong” dollar or not. In fact, there is no “we”. It’s theirs. The Fed owns it. Or rather controls it. They can manipulate that dollar to do whatever they want with it. Read about the Panic of 1907 or the Great Depression. I will debate you, but I will not debate you on historical fact. I will also not engage in a battle of wit, semantics or ego. To tell you the truth, there’s not much of a contest.

    Comment by Mitciva Uoyera # October 22, 2009 at 4:53 pm

  94. Besides, what would you win?

    Comment by Mitciva Uoyera # October 22, 2009 at 4:54 pm

  95. So get crackin there buddy. You got a lot of web browsing to do.

    Comment by Carpal Towel # October 22, 2009 at 4:55 pm

  96. Hold the phone!! Did anyone see those shirts? So sick!!

    Comment by Wino # October 22, 2009 at 5:07 pm

  97. “I sincerely believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a money aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs.” -Thomas Jefferson

    Comment by Uoyera Mitciva # October 22, 2009 at 5:15 pm

  98. “History records that the Money Changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and its issuance.” -James Madison

    Comment by Uoyera Mitciva # October 22, 2009 at 5:16 pm

  99. “Give me control of a nation’s money and I care not who makes the laws” -Mayer Amschel Bauer

    Comment by Uoyera Mitciva # October 22, 2009 at 5:20 pm

  100. “Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws.” -Amschel Mayer Rothschild

    Comment by Uoyera Mitciva # October 22, 2009 at 5:20 pm

  101. “I care not what puppet is placed upon the throne of England to rule the Empire on which the sun never sets. The man who controls Britain’s money supply controls the British Empire, and I control the British money supply.” -Nathan Mayer Rothschild

    Comment by Uoyera Mitciva # October 22, 2009 at 5:21 pm

  102. Seatbreeze, are you beginning to see the picture here? As the last three quotes emphasize, the money lenders, or “money changers” as Madison called them, didn’t waste their time with electoral politics. They understood the levers of control.

    Comment by Uoyera Mitciva # October 22, 2009 at 5:25 pm

  103. So, what I’m essentially saying is don’t waste you’re time engaging me with political banter. Start learning your history and maybe you can begin to understand the bigger picture on your own.

    Comment by Uoyera Mitciva # October 22, 2009 at 5:27 pm

  104. sorry, “your”

    Comment by Uoyera Mitciva # October 22, 2009 at 5:33 pm

  105. And anyone believing this blond hair thing, realize, IT WAS A JOKE. Sorry to let you all down. I made the comment making fun of some dog who has blonde hair. Theorizer seized upon the opportunity to try and use the comment against me in an effort to try and discredit me. He knew it was a joke. I mean come on, I’m very outspoken about the fact that two of my favorite skateboarders of all time both have blonde hair, Natas and Julien. Duh. That’s what you call a “strawman”. Not very effective and detrimental when you get found out.

    Comment by Uoyera Mitciva # October 22, 2009 at 5:54 pm

  106. Assuming that you actually do understand the process by which we pay the fed to use the money the fed prints, then I’m really curious as to how long you think it would take to explain it to me–you know, supposing you had the time and the inclination to do so. In particular, how many sentences do you think it would take to explain? And how long would it take you to write those sentences?

    The reason why I ask is because I have a very strong feeling that this is one of those phenomena that could be explained in two or three sentences, if that. Lots of concepts in economics are like that–it takes at least one sentence to explain, but then after one or two sentences the listener is like ‘oh, right, I get it’, because even though the phenomenon in question might not be obvious, it is not super complicated either. Like, a lot of things are basically one or two logical steps away from being common sense. For example, it would take just a few sentences to explain why an economist might think that a binding price ceiling would lead to a shortage of a good in equilibrium.

    So whatever, based on nothing but a hunch, I feel like actually explaining this phenomenon of us paying interest to the fed would not take more than a few minutes of your time to explain. Of course, I could be wrong; it could be that the phenomenon in question is really complicated, and so it really might be unreasonable to ask anyone else to explain it to me. In this case, you can just write something like ‘I don’t have time to explain it to you–it’s really complicated.’ I’m sure this will ring true in the event that you write it. Hahahahahahaha

    Oh, and just for future reference, when someone you are arguing with claims that you have contradicted yourself, you should probably address the claim if you’re interested in convincing anyone of anything. When you ignore an alleged contradiction, the audience, and indeed the person you’re arguing with, is likely to conclude that you lack a basic understanding of the things you’re arguing about.

    Comment by Seabreeze # October 22, 2009 at 7:18 pm

  107. “IT WAS A JOKE”

    Your skate career?

    Comment by God # October 22, 2009 at 8:10 pm

  108. Your life?

    Comment by God # October 22, 2009 at 8:11 pm

  109. Or your existence?

    Comment by God # October 22, 2009 at 8:12 pm

  110. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpMocikHaVE

    1:43

    Struggle Mode

    Comment by God # October 22, 2009 at 8:30 pm

  111. How you gonna try KRSone like that?

    Comment by God # October 22, 2009 at 8:34 pm

  112. Who is this guy god and what is he so mad about?

    Comment by Seabreeze # October 22, 2009 at 8:49 pm

  113. he’s mad cuz he’s not real, and only idiots believe in him.

    Comment by Wino # October 22, 2009 at 10:03 pm

  114. “IT WAS A JOKE” No shit! like comments of blonde skateboarders is serious??

    Comment by blond hair hurts my eyes # October 23, 2009 at 6:51 am

  115. Where have I “contradicted” myself? We(meaning the “tax” payer) pay an interest on our own money that is lent back to us(why???) from a private cartel of bankers and that “interest” goes right into the coffers of the private Fed. Now if you want to ask me in lawyer lingo how I know that the money goes back into the private coffers I would simply say, “I don’t”, but that’s because the Fed will not allow anyone to audit the Fed. One musk ask themselves why? Come on homey, it’s plain as day. Again, study the Aldrich Plan and how and why it was rejected and then compare it to the Federal Reserve Act. Simply look at the name. Even that is deceptive. It’s a scam. Wake up.

    Comment by Uoyera Mitciva # October 23, 2009 at 8:14 am

  116. Is that simple enough for you?

    Comment by Uoyera Mitciva # October 23, 2009 at 8:15 am

  117. “God”, thank you for posting that part. I am grateful for all the exposure you’ve given me on this website, as well as the expert cleansing your tongue has provided my backside. I was once going to buy a costly bidet, but now I just come to Theories of Atlantis. You’ve saved me hundreds of dollars. As far as that nollie flip you just can’t get your mind off of, you’re in luck cause there’s a little story that goes along with it. You see, first off, I’d like to see you try and skate either one of those two obstacles in that line. If you can, I encourage you to post the footage on here and then maybe one of us can cower behind a disguise and point out an inconsistency. But that’s not going to happen any time soon, will it? Anyhow, I had been desiring to film a line at that spot for a very long time, but every time I would go there to try and film the line, the salon that the last door is in front of would be open or there would always be car service cars lined up along the curb in front of the door waiting to pick up and drive home the Wall St. zombies, so I could never get to it. I would go there two or three times a week and every time I would go there, there would be a line of cars lined up. The worst part is that sometimes they would leave little gaps and I would ask the driver if he could leave a space so I could get to the door and usually they were cool, but by the time I would get to the door, that driver had pulled forward and the next driver would be pulled up and oblivious. It was very frustrating to say the least. And this would happen every time I would go there. That spot is right across from Goldman Sachs(how ironic) so there was a lot of activity there all the time. Anyhow, this one day I get there, and I don’t know what the fuck was happening, but there were no cars and the salon was closed. I was like let’s finish this once and for all. I’m not sure if you’ve ever seen that spot, but that first manual pad into the door is no bowl of grapes. There is a gap in between the pad and the door that makes it necessary to nollie out of the nose manual. I’m not sure how good you are(actually, you’re “God”, those are no problem for you), but for me that is somewhat difficult, especially to get a good pop to clear the gap. Regardless, clearing the gap is just one half. Go look at the door you land into. It has a serrated vent that you land on. In fact, I wouldn’t even call it a door, I’d call it a vent that you land in. Anyhow, that was the best one I had did in the whole time I’ve ever been skating that spot(because you used to be able to skate that one all the time. But no wonder you’ve never seen any footage on it till my line. Hmm, I wonder why that is?) Anyhow, after feeling that one, I simply went with it and that’s the nollie flip I got. I don’t really see what’s wrong with it. In fact, I kinda like it. For as anxious as I was that day in trying to seize on the rare opportunity to get that line with barely any obstructions, I’d say that was a damn good nollie flip. Not my best, but pretty good considering the circumstances. So again, the spots there, lets see it. Oh yeah, and again, thanks for the cleansing, you clean a mean one!

    Comment by The Struggler # October 23, 2009 at 8:57 am

  118. Nice try.

    Comment by The Stuggler # October 23, 2009 at 8:58 am

  119. Sonned! Now shut the fuck up you lousy dog, it’s been like a fucking year that you’ve been bitching about that nollie flip. Go skate that spot and do a good nollie flip there yourself, fat kid. No one will ever give a fuck.

    Uoyera: The contradiction has to do with things you’ve said about fiat currency. You said at one point that fiat currency has been ‘working’ since its inception, or at least since the early 1970s. You also said that the fed has been charging us interest somehow since 1913. And then you said (in reference to fiat currency) that ‘it doesn’t work work when a group of people charge interest illegally on it.’ The first two sentences imply that fiat currency has been working even as the fed was charging interest, while the quote in the third sentence says the exact opposite.

    And frankly, no, that’s not simple enough. It is not clear to me how tax payers incur an interest charge, how large that charge is, when exactly it is paid, et cetera. Like, I would explain payroll taxes to a martian by saying that the government takes some legislated, pre-specified amount of what we earn away from us between the time our employer cuts our check and the time we actually receive it. I wasn’t asking you to prove that the fed keeps some of this money or whatever, I just want to understand the nature of the transaction.

    Comment by Seabreeze # October 23, 2009 at 10:46 am

  120. Yawn………excuses excuses

    0:55

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbeLJApGSoI

    What is the story behind that? You were waiting months because they had that locked in the gym and the first day they left the gyn unlocked you got to film your line?

    Comment by God # October 23, 2009 at 6:47 pm

  121. The man fakie ollied a garbage can on it’s side in that line.
    Over 10 years ago.
    Nuff said.

    Comment by gunter # October 23, 2009 at 9:40 pm

  122. Looked like some really good skateboarding to me.

    Comment by The Devil # October 23, 2009 at 10:53 pm

  123. http://www.gaytunes.com/images/god1b.jpg

    Comment by Wino # October 23, 2009 at 11:38 pm

  124. God should just quit! I mean if you want to talk shit just words that’s one thing. Don’t even try to talk shit on skating unless you’re gonna post your footage as well. Plus straight fakie ollie is the hardest trick…ever.

    Comment by PennyPacker # October 24, 2009 at 7:23 am

  125. Yea, I dont know whats wrong with “God”, but that line was butters. Post some footy “God”! Lets see what youre working with.

    http://www.besportier.com/archives/greek-skateboard.jpg

    Comment by Jura # October 24, 2009 at 7:44 am

  126. Im just kidding towel’s offspring if you haven’t got the memo, the towl shits on 95% of the skate game when it really comes down to it easily, maybe more and im just giving him shit because thats all he does to everyone of course he is a legend an O.G. and influenced skating so much yadayadaya….. Now, if you guys will whipe his jizz from your face i’ve got to go learn how to nollie flip.

    Comment by God # October 24, 2009 at 8:06 am

  127. GodDamn, God… you are one boring, back-peddling motherfucker.

    Comment by The Devil # October 24, 2009 at 10:03 am

  128. Theory #12:
    God and The Towel, same person.
    Let it simmer for a minute

    Comment by Sherlock Homey # October 24, 2009 at 10:14 am

  129. Theory #666:

    God and The Devil, same deity.
    Let that one simmer for a bit.

    Comment by The Devil # October 24, 2009 at 10:31 am

  130. “let it simmer” -tools r us

    Comment by gangsta shit # October 24, 2009 at 3:48 pm

  131. I’m sorry, I should have been more clear when I said “it” in “it doesn’t work work when a group of people charge interest illegally on it”. What I meant is that the system could potentially turn ugly for the money masters when people find out they’re being ripped off, by being charged an illegal federal income tax(interest) on their own money. What I meant was “it”(not fiat currency) could be potential grounds for the overthrow of the money masters, if their system is found out. That is of course if people find out. Most in this country(and worldwide because it’s a similar system in many places) prolly wouldn’t even give a shit, they’re so pacified, misinformed, lazy and apathetic. But essentially this is why we are seeing the “money masters” ten steps ahead and moving to implement a new bubble to satiate the implosion of the old bubble. You know how Ponzi schemes work, don’t you? People think it’s “fixed” and go back to sleep. Get it? Problem/Reaction/Solution. It’s how they play the left off the right and vice versa. It’s exactly like what KRS said about Obama after G. Dubs in “The Obama Deception”, people get that false “left cover” and go back to sleep, thinking there is “change”. What they don’t realize it ain’t the change that’s gonna do shit for them. So what I meant is that “it” doesn’t work for the people. Legally, or constitutionally. The best part is that it is all technically “legal” based on the passage of the 16th amendment. That’s why I said check out how they did that. It’s all fucking genius shit. It should get you wise though. The problem is how to counter it. It’s an overarching order or plan. Real genius, like Val Kilmer.

    Comment by Uoyera Mitciva # October 24, 2009 at 4:09 pm

  132. http://submergemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/real-genius.jpg

    Comment by Uoyera Mitciva # October 24, 2009 at 4:10 pm

  133. Again, it’s impossible to tell where your tax money goes because no one is allowed to audit the Fed. Genius shit I’m tellin’ ya.

    Comment by Uoyera Mitciva # October 24, 2009 at 4:13 pm

  134. What the hell you think Ron Paul’s been bitching about since the 80’s?

    Comment by Uoyera Mitciva # October 24, 2009 at 4:14 pm

  135. cool story about the line, it’s satisfying to overcome the external obstacles of potential spots that are constantly shut down from being skated for one reason or another

    Comment by george # November 1, 2009 at 11:30 am

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